Malevolent-Jim Posts: From: Ireland. Most of the bands sound the exact same and don't do anything remotely interesting. It's popular to hate because its what's trendy in metal now, particularly Deathcore.
Posts: From: Germany. Windrider Raureif Posts: From: Germany. Posts: 11 From: USA. Because most of it sounds almost exactly the same although some of it is decent the rest is just cheaply made bullshit with nothing but breakdowns in my opinion. Posts: From: Finland.
IronAngel Posts: From: Finland. I don't hate coreshit. Some of it is great, some of it is really boring. Just like the shit that ends with "metal".
I think it's pretty infantile to hate a genre and make vague generalizations, anyway. People hate it because it's trendy to hate it, I wager. Besides, it's an easy target. It exists between worlds and is similar enough to metal to make a comparison but different enough to excommunicate. Posts: From: USA. Most people hate it for a few good reasons. With more hardcore punk influence than heavy metal influence, most metalcore can be classified as a sub-genre of Hardcore punk, not a sub-genre of metal.
There are some metalcore bands that draw more influence from heavy metal than they do from hardcore punk, but there aren't many.
Killswitch Engage , Trivium , and Lamb of God, on the other hand, have more metal leanings than punk leanings. As mentioned above, most metalcore bands draw much influence from hardcore punk, including the vocals.
Most metalcore singers scream their lyrics in a very loud, punk-like, eardrum-popping manner, whereas heavy metal singers do not. The screaming is admittedly a property of hardcore punk, not of metal. Some people may say that it is very narrow-minded to despise metalcore for not being like other metal genres, but they should understand that metal heads hate metalcore for its posing as heavy metal while actually being more related to hardcore punk.
I should add, however, that those who enjoy speed metal, thrash metal, black metal, and death metal and hate all things related to punk are hypocrites. It is a true fact that if it were not for punk, heavy metal would have evolved only as far as a Judas Priest-like and Motorhead-like sound. Speed metal brought about by the "New Wave of British Heavy Metal" is the product of classic heavy metal supplemented by the fast tempos and attitude of punk rock; thrash metal is the product of speed metal merged with the anger and aggression of hardcore punk; and death metal and black metal are the products of an extreme take on thrash metal.
Punk has contributed to the world of metal and should be respected for doing so. However, metalcore is taking the balanced relationship of heavy metal and punk in a direction that favors the punk side of the relationship. Whereas the aforementioned genres of metal are the results of a healthy balance of metal and aspects key word here: ASPECTS of punk, metalcore leans more towards hardcore punk than heavy metal, thanks to its extensive use of hardcore punk vocals.
True, one might say that with metalcore, heavy metal is evolving, but with the aggression of thrash metal and fundamentals of hardcore punk, is metalcore, then, not an evolution of hardcore punk and not heavy metal?
Therefore, metalcore can truly be classified as an evolved version of hardcore punk and not heavy metal. I hope this helps you understand the truth about metalcore and gives you a more well-grounded argument in your opposition to metalcore. But this is because he already is what he wills. Written by Axe Argonian on I agree with your analysis of metalcore and pretty much the reasons some people hate it, too.
But what stands out there is that you call them good reasons. I'm not really sure if metalcore "poses as" heavy metal, either. I couldn't speak for all of the bands especially since I don't even know the style well , but I can imagine they're mostly quite aware of their sources of inspiration.
In general, few artists seem interested in posing as representatives of any particular style, it tends to be the fans and critics who implement those labels. That said, I can see why people wouldn't enjoy metalcore. I don't really like it myself.
I just think that the reasons for singling it out and "hating on it" are mostly ridicilous. Getting worked up and wallowing in your insignifigant negative feelings towards a style of music or any other form of art or entertainment usually just wastes your energy and nobody else cares. Certainly not the artists. Windrider: I'm not sure if you've actually ever listened to Emo, but you've got your categorization backwards there.
Emo core is a derivation of hardcore punk, not the other way around. Most people here have completely wrong ideas about Emo anyway, and use it as a substitute for "whiny mainstream alternative rock" and those funny looking teens with bad hygiene. Check out Sunny Day Real Estate instead. Funeral Diner are ace, too. There's plenty of nice music in the core-styles though not quite so in the metalcore corner.
Luneth Account deleted. I can take some Metalcore, Avenged Sevenfold is a band I used to really love a lot and I also enjoy Killswitch Engage with a few non metal friends every now and again while chilling out. I know absolutely nothing about Deathcore. Metalcore is obviously aimed at a younger generation of metallers hence the bands images and sounds. Posts: From: Serbia. Metal core is all into taking money There are few exceptions Build your roofs of a dead wood..
Build your dreams of a dead thoughts". Posts: From: Canada. Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Posts: From: Canada. What proof do you have of that? Because metalcore is melodic and primarily marketed to teenagers? Look at power metal, death metal replace melodic with brutal , etc. Almost every genre has its share of bands who have a vested interest in trying to make money although they'd be better off writing hip-hop singles , but for the most part, metal is a non-profit form of art come to think of it, similar to almost every other art form.
Both are within the metal spectrum, bands of both genres sell their material in order to make money most of which is used to produce more material , and both genre's primary markets are teenagers and young adults. Don't get me wrong, I rarely listen to any -core music, but the unjust hate it gets is just plain idiocy.
PS - not calling you or anyone here in particular an idiot, just voicing my opinion. Written by Troy Killjoy on I've said "There are few exceptions "! Some what more popular than hardcore, though no matter how hard it tries it will never be popular like shitty nu-metal , which is a good thing. Metalcore is basically an evolution of the mixing of punk and metal that has been hapening for at least 30 years.
In the begining bands like Minor Threat, Bad Brains took on a harsher edge to punk music and played it fast. Their speed influenced the first wave of thrash metal like Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, etc Now you add influences of death metal from the early 90's and the fierce speed of late 80's crossover bands like Cryptic Slaughter and grind bands like Carcass and Napalm Death, especially the melodic death sounds sounds of At The Gates and In Flames and you have metalcore.
More metallic and generally a more technical style of hardcore with breakdowns and clean sung parts as well for better or for worse. Metalcore is in my opinion one of the greatest musical genres out there. Most older fans claim that the newer bands are'nt even metalcore but they are just idiotic people who dislike change. A mixture of hardcore punk and metal. Metalcore is short for metallic hardcore. There are 2 types of metalcore, regular metalcore and there's melodic metalcore. Early metalcore bands had more of a hardcore influence, but bands like Killswitch really put the metal into metalcore.
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