I use timid not in a negative way but only to mean that Brahmins are not proud of aggression, a trait that I see to this day. Somehow, I am not convinced that the entire caste Hindu population were asked to take up casteism by the Brahmins who still are merely a 3 percent of the population. The Kshatriyas and Vaishyas are an intelligent bunch. Do you think they would blindly listen to a minority?
For a poor priest, it does not matter if a Dalit gives him a rupee or a Devar gives him a rupee. Caste matters however for a powerful landowner who works in the land for cheap.
An unending supply of cheap bonded labor is what they needed. Take a look at caste based violence perpetrated against the Dalits. Twitter, whose monthly active users globally averaged million in the July-September quarter, does not disclose the number of its users in India but its executives have said that the country was one of its fastest growing.
Its use is only expected to grow in India in the coming months as political parties in the country of 1. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, with Dalits : Dalits should give up their caste and accept other religions like Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. So, there will be no discrimination based on caste.
Very simple. What dalit dalit yaar. Even upper caste will declare no caste ,still lower caste people say yes to caste because of reservation. Haram ki khane ki aadat. This guy is an idiot, and mind you sir it is not because you arevsiding with Dalits or you are a Dalit. It is purely because you are an idiot.
You are not offering solution to the problem rather escalating tensions between social groups in treachorous time. Learn to voice ypur views properly before becoming a columnist and before you move on to conclusion let me tell you no Brahmin parent is telling their child to disrespect any Dalit by finding them in class.
Caste can die a silent death if people like you do not ignite the flame of casteism in econonically progressive society. I am a Brahmjn girl married to Dalit boy, living in peace because both of us are earning our living. My husband is a self made man and so is his father. They have earned a respected place in society not because they abused and instigated hatred in society but because they strived for success and earned this respect. I am not denying that discrimination is not practised anywhere in India but the shit your are giving is nothing but crap.
Please stop this hate speech propogation. My friend Sharma, i have left my dalit status. But it is upper caste people who remind me that u are dalit. If it is not, upper caste position will be in danger. I am from a remote village of UP and have worked hard to get my job in central government without complaining anybody. Whatever the system we have inherited, we have to survive with that maintaining the social fabric of the country and am not ready to leave my own rights for the sake of dalits beyond this point.
You people talks about the atrocities done by the ancient people and want to revenge on us for that. Why to go far, you see among dalits itself those who have gained benefit of reservations are not ready to leave that for their own fellow brothers. I know some of my dalit friends whose parents got job under reserve qouta. They lead a better lifestyle. Their children who are my friends now studied in better institutions and got jobs again under reserve quota.
Again their children also have got job under dalit quota. Needless to say that their children also will get the jobs under reserve quota because they are far far better in their studies than those who are still studying in village schools.
Now my dalit friends have a higher status among dalits. They are marrying their children in dalit families having an equal or higher status. Try to realise my dear, it is not caste that matters but the economic and social status of the person to live a happy life.
I have no problem in sitting, talking or eating with them because they are equal to me in all other respects other than caste that matters not at all now. They speak English with ease and their lifestyle is all urban. In the beginning I took a portion for rent in a house without asking what caste they belonged to. It was almost after a year or so they told while talking that they are sc.
After that I stayed in the same house for more two years until I purchased my own flat. So friend leave grunting against upper castes, enjoy your rights, do your duties, give respect receive respect and live life happily. Mohit Jain, Challenge accepted, decide place and time. One friend Sharma commented, i leave my dalit status. I have left it long back.
My question was he should leave his upper caste status. No upper caste person has taken it. Are u worried. Time and again u are denying opportunity by various means By that u are protecting ur upper caste status. It is this dalit are challenging. If given fair opportunity, upper caste hegemony will be the thing of the past. Author has expressed one sided and partial views. So called Dalits never wants to end caste based systems in India. But dalit leaders are talking nonsense of social backwardness.
Politics is flourishing this garbage idea as such writer has expressed. O so called writer! Just give an example that man belonging to so called dalit caste have served nation like upper caste. They are just criminal. I am feeling near my locality. C v raman was a Brahmin, man,. Arybhatta was a Brahmin. India is and will be known for its Brhminism.
And I challenge you if you have capacity than throw out blanket of reservation and come to real battle to fight with Brahmin. You will know how deep are you in water. Poor and rich are found in every caste but dalit are poor mentally. There is no teatment for them unfortunately.
That is why they are called dali. Your arrogance shows why this article was written in first place. But still she boasts of her surname.
That ends about our society and system. I strongly suggest you and other perverts with similar mind set to watch out Article 15 or Aarakshan. May God give you enough strength to use brain in cc skull. All you Brahmins racists born from prostitution done by Rishis with apsarasas but Dalits born to their parents so Dalits never become like you which a product of prostitution.
Yes, they inherited the superior genes of the the Rishis and the demigoddesses called apsaras, and it was not prostitution, it was lovemaking u bigot. Who are u calling racist u from some other country. The weak will always fear the strong. Just like the Uchihas are the most feared clan, because they are so strong. The jokes on u the Rishis got to bang demigoddesses, u are butthurt mate. Dalits have been serving the country and are doing so.
Reservation is there because, you people are ruling and you people are not known for honesty. You people have been known for discrimination, prejudices, favoritism. Not just that you people have taken away livelihood of Dalits for millennia. If Dalits are given equal opportunity and resources, they can excel in any field.
Brahmins are not supreme in education and intelligence. It is not property. Brahmins were short of their intelligence and knowledge to write Constitution of India Brahmins ruled others not by giving everyone their due respect and right.
But by taking away others freedom and livelihood. They used others as physical forces and used shastras as mental forces to stop Dalits from making progress.
What if Shudras had used Kshatriyas and Vaishyas to kill Brahmins and stopped them from making any progress? Imagine that three people from various castes attack and torture for being born in a particular caste? Painful, right? What if happen in real? For some days live as a Dalit in an unknown place, just yet will realize that how bad and Brainless you people are.
Yes n people who are looting n making crores of scams and running out of country are also Brahmins. The article exudes negativity profuselly. This is only blocking amalgamation. Political dalitism should be replaced by positive dalitism. No action is possible against these people. However, you are doomed if you say something which is not palatable to these opportunists.
Even if you dont actually say, you will be arrested immediately without even preliminary enquiry. All parties bent backwards to restore this provision , like in Shah Bano case,after the Supreme Court found it against the principles of natural justice. So, to end one oppression , you will start another. Discrimination on the basis of caste is a social problem and mustl be dealt with as such with the backing of law enforcing machinery laws are already there. They need to be applied to the opposite side as well.
The cake of reservations is usurped by the rich and never reach the needy. We cannot be equal as dalits cannot match nepotism and discrimination practiced by others. All power and wealth are with others. All key players are other than dalits, still we fail to check corruption.
If corruption of all kind is checked, no reservations is required. Reservation is just a small tool to counter corruption of others in public life. The writer has shown his arrogance in the very beginning of the article by proclaiming that Dalits are not there to make the upper castes comfortable. What he thinks then that upper castes are here to make Dalits comfortable.
If this is the attitude, how can we expect equality and harmony in the society. In my childhood almost 50 or so years back in my village nobody knew what a dalit is. Though they were there but lived in harmony with upper caste people. What they were supposed to do was to wish the upper caste and they were more than pleased by this much from the Dalits that too not everyone only elderly ones. On some occasions Dalits used to wish my elders and if I was present there, they used to give the same treatment for me too but I always felt uncomfortable when an elderly person of dalit community used to wish me.
I used to resist but there answer always was you are a Brahman and all Brahmans are respectable for us irrespective of age and other things though I was never convinced by their argument. These dalits never confronted with the upper caste people as they used to get permanent or seasonal jobs in the homes or fields of upper caste people mostly thakurs. They never aspired that upper caste people should eat with them or marry their daughters with dalit boys.
But now you are directly asking the upper caste people to marry their daughters and sons to the dalit boys and girls. How is it possible when upper castes search a match for their children in their own castes too on the basis of personal qualities, income, social status of the family and many other things in quest for compatibility.
It is not possible to give a total of such slaughter on all accounts committed by the Brahmins in the name of religion Examining the legislation of Asoka the question is: Did he prohibit the killing of the cow? On this issue there seem to be a difference of opinion Asoka had no particular interest in the cow and owed no special duty to protect her against killing.
Asoka was interested in the sanctity of all life human as well as animal. He felt his duty to prohibit the taking of life where taking of life was not necessary. That is why he prohibited slaughtering animal for sacrifice which he regarded as unnecessary and of animals which are not utilised nor eaten which again would be want on and unnecessary.
That he did not prohibit the slaughter of the cow in specie may well be taken as a fact which for having regard to the Buddhist attitude in the matter cannot be used against Asoka as a ground for casting blame. This may be a novel theory but it is not an impossible theory. As the French author, Gabriel Tarde has explained that culture within a society spreads by imitation of the ways and manners of the superior classes by the inferior classes.
This imitation is so regular in its flow that its working is as mechanical as the working of a natural law. Gabriel Tarde speaks of the laws of imitation.
One of these laws is that the lower classes always imitate the higher classes. This is a matter of such common knowledge that hardly any individual can be found to question its validity. Of course there was an extensive propaganda in favour of cow-worship by the Brahmins. The Gayatri Purana is a piece of this propaganda. But initially it is the result of the natural law of imitation. This, of course, raises another question: Why did the Brahmins give up beef-eating?
In a period overridden by ritualism there was hardly a day on which there was no cow sacrifice to which the Brahmin was not invited by some non-Brahmin. For the Brahmin every day was a beef-steak day. The Brahmins were therefore the greatest beef-eaters. The Yajna of the Brahmins was nothing but the killing of innocent animals carried on in the name of religion with pomp and ceremony with an attempt to enshroud it in mystery with a view to conceal their appetite for beef.
Some idea of this mystery pomp and ceremony can be had from the directions contained in the Atreya Brahamana touching the killing of animals in a Yajna Why did they give up beef-eating? Why did they, as an extreme step, give up meat eating altogether and become vegetarians? It is two revolutions rolled into one. As has been shown it has not been done as a result of the preachings of Manu, their Divine Law-maker.
The revolution has taken place in spite of Manu and contrary to his directions. What made the Brahmins take this step? Was philosophy responsible for it? Or was it dictated by strategy?
To my mind, it was strategy which made the Brahmins give up beef-eating and start worshipping the cow. The strife between Buddhism and Brahmanism is a crucial fact in Indian history.
Without the realisation of this fact, it is impossible to explain some of the features of Hinduism. Unfortunately students of Indian history have entirely missed the importance of this strife.
They knew there was Brahmanism. But they seem to be entirely unaware of the struggle for supremacy in which these creeds were engaged and that their struggle, which extended for years has left some indelible marks on religion, society and politics of India. This is not the place for describing the full story of the struggle. All one can do is to mention a few salient points.
Buddhism was at one time the religion of the majority of the people of India. It continued to be the religion of the masses for hundreds of years. It attacked Brahmanism on all sides as no religion had done before. Brahmanism was on the wane and if not on the wane, it was certainly on the defensive.
As a result of the spread of Buddhism, the Brahmins had lost all power and prestige at the Royal Court and among the people. They were smarting under the defeat they had suffered at the hands of Buddhism and were making all possible efforts to regain their power and prestige.
Buddhism had made so deep an impression on the minds of the masses and had taken such a hold of them that it was absolutely impossible for the Brahmins to fight the Buddhists except by accepting their ways and means and practising the Buddhist creed in its extreme form. After the death of Buddha his followers started setting up the images of the Buddha and building stupas.
The Brahmins followed it. They, in their turn, built temples and installed in them images of Shiva, Vishnu and Ram and Krishna etc — all with the object of drawing away the crowd that was attracted by the image worship of Buddha. The Buddhists rejected the Brahmanic religion which consisted of Yajna and animal sacrifice, particularly of the cow. The objection to the sacrifice of the cow had taken a strong hold of the minds of the masses especially as they were an agricultural population and the cow was a very useful animal.
The Brahmins in all probability had come to be hated as the killer of cows in the same way as the guest had come to be hated as Gognha, the killer of the cow by the householder, because whenever he came a cow had to be killed in his honour. That being the case, the Brahmins could do nothing to improve their position against the Buddhists except by giving up the Yajna as a form of worship and the sacrifice of the cow. That the object of the Brahmins in giving up beef-eating was to snatch away from the Buddhist Bhikshus the supremacy they had acquired is evidenced by the adoption of vegetarianism by Brahmins.
Why did the Brahmins become vegetarian? The answer is that without becoming vegetarian the Brahmins could not have recovered the ground they had lost to their rival namely Buddhism. In this connection it must be remembered that there was one aspect in which Brahmanism suffered in public esteem as compared to Buddhism.
That was the practice of animal sacrifice which was the essence of Brahmanism and to which Buddhism was deadly opposed. That in an agricultural population there should be respect for Buddhism and revulsion against Brahmanism which involved slaughter of animals including cows and bullocks is only natural.
What could the Brahmins do to recover the lost ground? To go one better than the Buddhist Bhikshus not only to give up meat-eating but to become vegetarians — which they did. That this was the object of the Brahmins in becoming vegetarians can be proved in various ways.
If the Brahmins had acted from conviction that animal sacrifice was bad, all that was necessary for them to do was to give up killing animals for sacrifice. It was unnecessary for them to be vegetarians. That they did go in for vegetarianism makes it obvious that their motive was far-reaching. Secondly, it was unnecessary for them to become vegetarians. For the Buddhist Bhikshus were not vegetarians. This statement might surprise many people owing to the popular belief that the connection between Ahimsa and Buddhism was immediate and essential.
It is generally believed that the Buddhist Bhikshus eschewed animal food. This is an error. The fact is that the Buddhist Bhikshus were permitted to eat three kinds of flesh that were deemed pure. Later on they were extended to five classes.
Yuan Chwang, the Chinese traveller was aware of this and spoke of the pure kinds of flesh as San-Ching As the Buddhist Bhikshus did eat meat the Brahmins had no reason to give it up. Why then did the Brahmins give up meat-eating and become vegetarians? It was because they did not want to put themselves merely on the same footing in the eyes of the public as the Buddhist Bhikshus.
The giving up of the Yajna system and abandonment of the sacrifice of the cow could have had only a limited effect. At the most it would have put the Brahmins on the same footing as the Buddhists. The same would have been the case if they had followed the rules observed by the Buddhist Bhikshus in the matter of meat-eating.
It could not have given the Brahmins the means of achieving supremacy over the Buddhists which was their ambition.
They wanted to oust the Buddhists from the place of honour and respect which they had acquired in the minds of the masses by their opposition to the killing of the cow for sacrificial purposes.
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